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		<title>By: Lachlan Hardy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lachlan Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much, Wendy! I'll check them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much, Wendy! I&#8217;ll check them out.</p>
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		<title>By: house of user - Projektmanagement &#124; Usability Engineering &#124; E-Learning &#124; Redaktion</title>
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		<dc:creator>house of user - Projektmanagement &#124; Usability Engineering &#124; E-Learning &#124; Redaktion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hält sich in Grenzen. Die Gurus klatschen Beifall, allen voran Jeffrey Zeldman mit Loving HTML5, Wendy Chisholm unter dem Gesichtspunkt der Barrierefreiheit und, im Zusammenhang mit Googles Wave-Demonstration, Bruce Lawson. Jeffrey Zeldman und andere haben [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hält sich in Grenzen. Die Gurus klatschen Beifall, allen voran Jeffrey Zeldman mit Loving HTML5, Wendy Chisholm unter dem Gesichtspunkt der Barrierefreiheit und, im Zusammenhang mit Googles Wave-Demonstration, Bruce Lawson. Jeffrey Zeldman und andere haben [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Deschamps</title>
		<link>http://sp1ral.com/2009/08/html-5/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephane Deschamps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, not being a native speaker in english, find it most of the time more than puzzling, but pretty darn hard to understand, much less follow, the discussions about accessibility issues in the HTML5 group. Especially for those two points you mention (text alternative and summary).

In a way, I'm glad that even natives are puzzled. I feel less lonely... ;)

Fortunately, some good people took on their time to summarize the problem, here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE

It's not yet completely clear, but at least all the info is in one place. Phew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, not being a native speaker in english, find it most of the time more than puzzling, but pretty darn hard to understand, much less follow, the discussions about accessibility issues in the HTML5 group. Especially for those two points you mention (text alternative and summary).</p>
<p>In a way, I&#8217;m glad that even natives are puzzled. I feel less lonely&#8230; <img src='http://sp1ral.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Fortunately, some good people took on their time to summarize the problem, here: <a href="http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE" rel="nofollow">http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not yet completely clear, but at least all the info is in one place. Phew.</p>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lachlan,

I have similar questions. Here are a couple sources, although most of the information I have gotten is through talking with people.

The "shadow dom" is mentioned in the minutes from the &lt;a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2009JulSep/0026.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;21 August 2009 Canvas Accessibility meeting&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href="http://groups.google.com/group/openweb-group/msg/4aeac3adce2e0907?pli=1" rel="nofollow"&gt;T.V. Raman wrote about Canvas vs SVG&lt;/a&gt; on March 9, 2009.

The primary place for this discussion is &lt;a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the public-canvas-api mailing list&lt;/a&gt;. They are meeting on Fridays and minutes are published soon after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lachlan,</p>
<p>I have similar questions. Here are a couple sources, although most of the information I have gotten is through talking with people.</p>
<p>The &#8220;shadow dom&#8221; is mentioned in the minutes from the <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2009JulSep/0026.html" rel="nofollow">21 August 2009 Canvas Accessibility meeting</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/openweb-group/msg/4aeac3adce2e0907?pli=1" rel="nofollow">T.V. Raman wrote about Canvas vs SVG</a> on March 9, 2009.</p>
<p>The primary place for this discussion is <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/" rel="nofollow">the public-canvas-api mailing list</a>. They are meeting on Fridays and minutes are published soon after.</p>
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		<title>By: Lachlan Hardy</title>
		<link>http://sp1ral.com/2009/08/html-5/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I'd love to make CANVAS accessible, giving it a DOM sounds like it'd just make it into SVG... So why not just use SVG and work on making sure *it* is as accessible as possible?

Not necessarily expecting you to have the answers, Wendy, but I'd not heard folks talking about DOMifying CANVAS before. Got some links for future reading?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I&#8217;d love to make CANVAS accessible, giving it a DOM sounds like it&#8217;d just make it into SVG&#8230; So why not just use SVG and work on making sure *it* is as accessible as possible?</p>
<p>Not necessarily expecting you to have the answers, Wendy, but I&#8217;d not heard folks talking about DOMifying CANVAS before. Got some links for future reading?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter Trackbacks for HTML 5–What I’m Watching at Wendy Chisholm [sp1ral.com] on Topsy.com</title>
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		<title>By: Laura Carlson (lauracarlson) 's status on Wednesday, 26-Aug-09 06:54:32 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Carlson (lauracarlson) 's status on Wednesday, 26-Aug-09 06:54:32 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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